António Guterres and Guy Ryder congratulate Spain on its methodology for analysing inclusion policies and the Minimum Basic Income

Meeting between the Minister for Inclusion, Social Security and Migration, Elma Saiz, and the Secretary-General of the United Nations, António Guterres

Minister Saiz reiterated the Government of Spain's commitment to the fight against poverty and, as part of her contribution, she presented the United Nations Secretary General with the Decalogue containing the conclusions drawn from the evaluation of the 34 pilot projects that have emerged from the Public Policy Laboratory of the IMV:

"Spain is a pioneer in the application of scientific methodologies to the design of policies to test their real impact. We think this is a practice that should be scaled up to other bodies. Evaluating policies in a rigorous way improves effectiveness in the fight for real inclusion," Saiz explained.

Antonio Guterres recognised Spain as a strategic partner, thanking our country for its proactivity in undertaking policies that are now a priority for the UN.

During the visit, the UN invited Spain to take on a prominent role and to take part in the future Social Summit in 2025. "We will have the opportunity to share this pioneering experience of evaluation in the field of science to make the right decisions regarding public policy.

Meeting with Guy Ryder

Meeting between the Minister for Inclusion, Social Security and Migration, Elma Saiz, and the Under-Secretary-General for Policy of the United Nations, Guy Ryder

Elma Saiz also shared with Guy Ryder, UN Under-Secretary General for Policy, the lessons learned after the launch of the Public Policy Lab.

"Ensuring a minimum income guarantee is necessary, but by itself is not enough In this regard, we have taken advantage of European funds to set up this Inclusion Policy Laboratory, which has also demonstrated that collaboration with other administrations and social organisations is key to achieving full inclusion", the minister underlined. For his part, Guy Ryder expressed his interest in the laboratory, acknowledging that "it could have huge international resonance because it links employment to social protection, which is very important".

Saiz also highlighted the value of the circular migration projects implemented by Spain, which have just been very well received at the Spring Meetings held by the World Bank in Washington. "These projects place the training and employability of migrants at the core. The training of migrants is key for the host country and can be key for the country of origin if that person decides to return. It's a win-win situation. It is important to understand migration as a challenge, but also and above all as an opportunity".

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